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"Then Jesus went out and departed from the temple, and His disciples came up to show Him the buildings of the temple. And Jesus said to them, “Do you not see all these things? Assuredly, I say to you, not one stone shall be left here upon another, that shall not be thrown down.” Matthew 24:1-2 - fullfilled 70 A.D. "Behold, I will gather them out of all countries where I have driven them in My anger, in My fury, and in great wrath; I will bring them back to this place, and I will cause them to dwell safely. They shall be My people, and I will be their God; " Jeremiah 32:37-41 - fulfilled 1948 (israel becomes a nation) , Ezekiel 20:34 and ezekiel 36:33-35 speak of the same thing. (much more prophecies for that though from DIFFERENT PROPHETS of the Bible) "Those who come He shall cause to take root in Jacob;Israel shall blossom and bud,And fill the face of the world with fruit." Isaiah 27:6 (Israel is the largest agricultural exporter of fruits and vegetable. Before the formation in 1948 nothing grew on that soil which is why nobody bothered to use it. Half of the land is desert, the climate and lack of water doesnt favor farming but obviously Bible prophecy shows nothing is impossible if God does it.) "And it shall happen in that day that I will make Jerusalem a very heavy stone for all peoples; all who would heave it away will surely be cut in pieces, though all nations of the earth are gathered against it. " Zechariah 12:3 (should I go any further? It's easy to tell that everyone is turning against Israel, even America." Psalm 83; They have taken crafty counsel against Your people, And consulted together against Your sheltered ones. They have said, “Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation,That the name of Israel may be remembered no more.” (there is more to this verse but I do not want to give incomplete information. But despite, it is easy to see that the middle east wants israel destroyed.. Other battle verses are Ezekiel 38) Revelation 9:16 "Now the number of the army of the horsemen was two hundred million; I heard the number of them" What country in the world is capable of having an army that large? none except China. As we know China hates Israel and is supplying Iran with weapons.... Read Isaiah 19. The scripture speaks that God will restore Egypt, the Egyptians and Assyrians will then make Christ their God and worship Him along with the Israel. please, I recommend that you would look into the archaeology of the bible and manuscripts as well. Of the Bible the New Testament alone has over 25,000 with 98% accuracy, the other percentage is grammar mistakes. Muslims claim that Christians have corrupted the Bible but how can that be? The discovery of the "dead sea scrolls" reveals that the Bible today is the same text as written on the scrolls, therefore no corruption of the original text. The archaeology for the bible is overwhelming and only 1 % of it has been discovered.I challenge you to compare archaeology, manuscripts and prophecies in the koran that have happened in the past years like the bible has. The only way to test for truth is to provide the evidence. Repent and ask Jesus for forgiveness. |
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The question has been closed for the following reason "Other" by sadie Mar 26 at 03:16
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First of all, I can not read all the debate because its totally off the topic. The topic is about the Prophecies of Jesus Christ and Authenticity of Bible and not whether The Prophet of Islam (S.A.W) is the messenger of Allah (GOD) or not. So I want to remain on topic. @ Makariz Are these your only evidences? You said: (should I go any further? It's easy to tell that everyone is turning against Israel, even America.) Answer: I think you don't have eye on World Affairs. United States was the first country in the world to recognize Israel. check here: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/recogIsrael.html Even today, America is the puppet of Israel. You said: What country in the world is capable of having an army that large? none except China. As we know China hates Israel and is supplying Iran with weapons.... and you quoted the figure of two hundred million. Answer: your provided figure is 100 times the present army of China. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now about the authenticity of the present Bible which have multiple versions, every year Christians published a new version of bible. Do you know when was the Bible first written? let me tell you after 400 years. Do you know in which language the Bible was revealed? It was Hebrew . And today no one in this World knows Hebrew, and what the Christians have is the translation. And translation is not enough. So you can not say its the Holy Bible revealed by God but rather you have the translation of Holy Bible. And the original manuscripts have been lost. Don't you see the documentaries made by Christians? I advice you to do some research so that you will know that Christian Researchers are searching for the original Hebrew bible. Now what about the Scientific Errors and Contradictions in Bible. If you call it the Word of God. Give me Answers of some questions and then we will talk more.
Provide the answer of the above questions, and we will talk further. May Allah (S.W.T) Guide You To The True Path. Ameen. |
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alright, i wont go much... China has the population to create an army of two hundred million..So thats that.. Hebrew has been kept alive even after romans destroyed the temple in 70 a.d. . I been to a messianic congregations, jewish conventions where hebrew is spoken and written.. Israel uses it to this day...why do you persist on lying? and if language is the issue why then are there 100 foriegn words in the koran from egyptian, hebrew, greek, syriac, akkadian, ethipian, persian? The Bible wasnt just written in Hebrew, it was in greek as well..and thats it. Of course the Bible has many versions which are corrupted. The only true way to read word for word is the original hebrew and greek form which it was written in. The original text of the bible was always in question but then was later debunked when an arabic boy accidentally discovered the dead sea scrolls in jars that were placed in 2 caves which were the original writtings of the bible, proven by test such as carbon dating. So your defense of the bible being inaccurate and corrupted over time no longer exist. scientific errors? sura 18:86, the sun set in the muddy springs???? The earth being created in 6 but then later says 8 sura 6:14 says abraham was the first to believe but than sura 7:143 says it was moses.. Which is it? Just like the non-problematic 2000 or 3000 baths that solomon had which you brought up.. 2000 or 3000 baths does not change doctrine and is no big deal, Grammatical/numerical errors exist especially when writting for HOURS. the koran teaches muhammad never performed miracles, but the hadith said he did but if both are DIVINELY inspired than why does this problem exist? If you wouldnt have brought up non-harmful contradictions I wouldnt bring up the fact that several versions of the koran were in use by people until Caliph Uthman standardized a common koran and burned the rest in 650' a.d. So for the simplest comprehensive place of creation to be such and issue, it should be more of an issue whether you know if the koran which you are reading is THE OFFICIAL KORAN. Since you want scrap , prophecies, manuscripts and other such ways to authenticate the koran or the bible...I guess we have to move on towards popular secular historians of mention about events of the bible actually happening from such as the crucifixion, nero killing christians,etc. These historians werent christians at the time, i assume they probably changed. One of the historians worked for Rome. And if its such a blasphemy to be a christian, who is to blame, me or allah? Cause what i've read was that Allah transfigured someone to look like Jesus whom then died on the cross.. If believing Jesus is God and died on the cross is such blasphemy why then did Allah create this illusion for me to believe it? I would be going to hell then because of his doing of deception, so therefore Allah doesnt Judge righteously and has to lie by having some dress up as Jesus. Alhamdulillah I have all the answers for your critics. But as I have previously said to your friend @Only that I don't want to give answers only, I also want answers for my questions which he gave me none. So ,it would be better if you can answer my posted questions first so that I'll answer yours. and regarding you saying that 2000-3000 baths are no big deal and grammar/num. error, we are talking about words of GOD which can have no contradictions. At least you agreed that there are errors in Bible. I laughed when you said errors exist due to hours of writing, when one inspired by GOD.
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“I guarantee a house in Jannah (Paradise) for one who gives up arguing, even if he is in the right; and I guarantee a house in the middle of Jannah for one who abandons lying even when joking / for the sake of fun; and I guarantee a house in the highest part of Jannah for one who has good manners.” [Prophet Muhammad (صلي الله عليه وسلم) - reported by Imam Abu Dawud] |
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Guys why are you quarreling with each other over Obama and fortune telling? LOL, the simplest answer is that Fortune telling (Horoscope) is forbidden. Dream interpretation is not haram. But one should never disclose his/her dream to anyone except an Islamic Scholar or a really knowledgeable and trustworthy person who should be a practicing Muslim. This topic is regarding Prophecies and the authenticity of Bible. |
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Lol, where did Obama come into the conversation. I'm not quarling, I'm saying that is pointless arguing with the disbeliever on this site. It is just vain talk, so why argua. we are not arguing. we all say the same thing but for some reason there is quarrel lol. its fighting. we both agree with you on this one. for the authenticity of the Bible you should research about the gospel of St Barnabas @pargali definitely, I shall look at Gospel of St Barnabas. |
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Light: I said its forbidden to do fortune telling. You are saying the same. Please do not use your useless opinion and try to refute me even when you havent even read what I have said. But our prophet Joseph practiced dream interpretation and tried to guess the oncoming events, as described in the Surat Yusuf (http://quran.com/12). That is something very much different than "prophecies". |
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Pargali please don't use your opinion, on Islam. It is prohibited to guess the future by looking at the stars. That is fortunetelling, which is prohibited. There is no point in arguing with them, they think they are right. Even if you show every defect in their book, they will still follow So do not debate in a pointless debate "As to those who reject Faith it is the same to them whether thou warn them or do not warn them; They will not believe. "Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing and on their eyes is a veil Great is the penalty they incur." [Al-Qur'an 2:6-7] In their hearts is disease, so Allah has increased their disease; and for them is a painful punishment because they [habitually] used to lie. 2:11 And when it is said to them, "Do not cause corruption on the earth," they say, "We are but reformers." 2:12 Unquestionably, it is they who are the corrupters, but they perceive [it] not. 2:13 And when it is said to them, "Believe as the people have believed," they say, "Should we believe as the foolish have believed?" Unquestionably, it is they who are the foolish, but they know [it] not. This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for the God-fearing {Surah al Baqarah, ayah # 2} |
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there are no prophecies in Islam as the fortune telling is forbidden. but one can "guess" the future, for example by studying the symbols and anagrams in their own or other peoples dreams |
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Jesus beheld seeing satan fall as lightening from heaven. Clever enough, supposedly in arabic and even hebrew "lightening from heaven" can be translated as "Barack O Bama" look it up.. in the days or weeks to come whenever it is exactly that "president Barack O'Bama" goes to Israel, does anybody else feel there could potentially be a controversy that arises, maybe even leading into more apparent signs of the end times? I do not deny ANY of the revelations from my Lord. Allah is the Most High, exalted and glorified be He. |
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Hey , this is not the place for an online war ! This is an islamic website . There's many other sites where you can say your so-called-truth about christianity all you want . We are muslims , we love peace. |
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You Believer are just completely ridiculous, totally delirious... I am laughing hard at you trying to say this joke to me, it is really funny... You are the best, you have to be the one that´s one eyed. It is in Islamic books, that the one eyed will come.. If you have more with you, then I know why this is it. That you have family of one eyed people, I do not want to be hard on you. But you are worth enough to hear the truth, so this is to see if you can function. But how to send this shit out, it reminds me that it is not so bad not so bad... You have some issues, I bet you need some counseling. Look if you had one shot, I moment. Would you capture it or let it slips...? His choking now...but he wont give up. You better lose it, you got only one chance to grab it. You better lose this bullshit, this is sending you to the one road for damnation. I had been spit at, made fun of and bu´d at... My only option is to save as much as I can, you can do everything you set your mind to.. Do not let that be that you are talking about, for that is not gonna give you enter... |
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